Episode 12 | July 29, 2025 - AI in Policy with Marci Harris

In this episode co-hosts Billy Riggs and Vipul Vyas engage in a conversation with Marci Harris, CEO of POPVOX, discussing the intersection of AI and legislation, emphasizing the importance of civic tech in enhancing policy development. She reflects on the evolution of POPVOX, the challenges of keeping democratic institutions aligned with rapidly advancing technology, and the potential of AI to improve policy-making processes. The discussion also discusses best practice in places like San Jose where Mayor Matt Mahan is experimenting with AI in government, and highlights the need for transparency, citizen engagement, and innovative tools to support legislative staff in their work.

Takeaways
- The integration of AI in government policy is essential for modernization.
- Civic tech plays a crucial role in enhancing public engagement.
- Transparency in government fosters trust and accountability.
- The pacing problem highlights the gap between technology and policy-- making.
- AI can provide valuable insights for better legislative processes.
- Democratic institutions must adapt to technological advancements.
- Public engagement is vital for effective governance.
- Innovative tools can help bridge the gap between tech and policy.
- Collaboration between tech and government is necessary for progress.
- The future of policy-making will rely on data-driven approaches.

Sound Bites
"AI is going to feel threatened by AI."
"AI has bailed out San Francisco from itself."
"Smarter government requires smarter code."
"Government transparency is essential."
"Tech is often the easy part."
"The future is outcome-based."

Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Rewiring the American Edge
01:01 - Civic Tech and Engagement in Government
06:05 - Challenges in Policy and Technology Pacing
10:43 - The Future of Government Transparency and AI
14:54 - Addressing Skepticism Around AI in Governance
16:24 - Innovations in Digital Services
21:39 - Rethinking AI Policy and Legislation
26:51 - Leveraging AI for Policy Development
31:16 - The Importance of Collaboration Between Tech and Government

Additional Resources
https://popvox.com/

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